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Lue had implored his group to get off to a better start, to not have to play catchup in this road game, to not get “bored with the process.”

Zubac said the only way to not get discouraged is to “not get bored with the process.”

The 13-mile-long San Jacinto Tunnel was bored through the mountain in the 1930s by a crew of about 1,200 men who worked day and night for six years, blasting rock and digging with machinery.

“I’m interested in human behavior. I can never understand when somebody says they’re bored. That is the most unfathomable thing that you could say to me.”

“I never got bored. I’m in a dark room all the time by myself, mostly, and just spending time with those characters. They’re my biggest hang. So I do love them.”