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Shakira delivers the quip with a wink, but there's one thing everyone acknowledges backstage: The boss is a perfectionist.

We have this great crew that’s been with us for so long, and they’re all perfectionists, and they would do things a million times.

“I’m a very perfectionist and I like things, you know, they can always be improved. They can always be better.”

Lately, Anderson has been on a tear of using his perfectionist aesthetic to defend the act of ambition itself — to honor artisans who create masterpieces in a world of philistines.

"He loved life and whatever he did, TV, Radio or writing, he was a perfectionist," Ms McDermott said.