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As general secretary of the TUC, Paul Nowak sits at the top of an organisation that represents five and a half million workers.

The TUC leader is scratching his head over how this would be measured in some public sector roles.

Paul Nowak has worked for the TUC for almost a quarter of a century, and was its deputy general secretary from 2016 to the start of 2023.

The TUC will hope to influence ministers, but it's clear they won't always see eye-to-eye.

When Labour were in opposition, Angela Rayner, addressing the TUC last year, promised to increase SSP - though she did not specify by how much.