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“You want to serve, as the girls say, c—. That’s a part of L.A. that’s very niche. L.A. people will go out in like jeans and a T-shirt, whereas I’m in vintage designer clothes and a 4-inch heel, you know?”

In a conversation that detours through jokes about the composition of turduckens, nostalgia about the state of jeans worn during the aughts and comparing the background decor visible in each of our Zoom windows, Scrofano is most engaged when discussing storytelling.

On Tuesday in New York, one of the men who took Lander into custody was dressed in a backwards baseball cap and faded jeans, a guy you wouldn’t think twice about passing on the street, except guys who fit that description rarely go around wearing surgical masks over their salt-and-pepper beards these days.

A video, shared widely online, shows police arresting a young man with a boyish face and hair over his shoulders, wearing blue jeans and a green T-shirt.

Out of all the guys in the crowd, there was just something about him and his tight jeans, his boots and his cowboy hat.