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And, in our conversation here, you've, you know, expressed the importance of unions, which I believe Josh Barro asked whether or not, whether or not it was necessary to break the unions to get things done in New York.

Josh Barro, a journalist and the proprietor of the “Very Serious” Substack blog, touched on this in an interview he did with Rep. Ritchie Torres, D-N.Y., at last week’s centrist event, where he asked Torres, “Is abundance actually popular ... in a place like New York?”

At one point during the event, Barro asked, “Is there a way to have a pro-abundance Democratic Party agenda in New York without breaking the strong link that exists between the New York Democratic Party and the labor movement?”

Barro has since gone on to advocate for “fighting labor unions” in the name of abundance.

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