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"When I first met David, I was in shorts," he jokes.

Just one per cent of Blue Whales were left, recalls Sir David: "I remember thinking that was it. There was no coming back, we had lost the great whales."

Like David, I am deeply, deeply, deeply skeptical of anything Ken Paxton says.

“I played the trumpet when I was young and I understand music, but I was in love with sound effects. So I wanted to build a studio to experiment with sound, but I knew I wasn’t a musician really. Angelo said, ‘David, I need lyrics.’

“But David,” I asked, “why black tempera paint? Not just on my face but in my ears and nose?”