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They accept they will get nowhere near what they paid for him.

Trust me, you get nowhere being that way.

Mr Dyer said he would even consider flying Hosein to the farm "if we get nowhere by midweek".

“Don’t tell yourself no before someone else tells you no. Keep writing. Get very comfortable with rejection. If you do something in a room and someone chuckles, that could be a laugh somewhere else. And don’t compare yourself to somebody else’s journey because you’re going to get nowhere. You’re only in competition with yourself. Are you writing this down?”

“For 85 years, those arguments weren’t made,” Fisk says, “because lawyers knew that they would get nowhere with them — they might even get sanctioned. The Supreme Court signaled that it was up to Congress to design regulatory structures.”