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"This gave another maybe two or three million people," says Bornykov.

That’s kind of the secret sauce for me, and it’s hard to maybe tick all those boxes at once.

“I feel like maybe a couple, few more months and I won’t have my left hand either. It’s sobering.”

I think the people who are feeling threatened coming downtown are people who don’t maybe agree with the cause.

“Our challenge now is to make you question whether you hate Abby at all and maybe make you start to love her and then be confused,” Mazin says.