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"For many, it is an urgent wake up call to just what is going on in our oceans. But it can no longer be a matter of 'out of sight, out of mind'."

It was "locked away in our study... a case of out of sight, out of mind".

They also tend to occur away from roads and people, so they’re easily overlooked — out of sight, out of mind.

“It’s a tough case, because people are really — are they defending MS-13? Are they defending, you know, someone who’s out of sight, out of mind in El Salvador?”

"It's a bit like 'out of sight, out of mind' in terms of understanding their danger, compared to more famous ones like Vesuvius," she says on deck, as we watch two engineers winching a robot the size of a car off the ship's side.