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At 36, she has completed the transition from wunderkind to elder stateswoman.

“Women can be both wives and mothers and also stateswomen,” she continued.

At 39, Noecker considers herself the “senior stateswoman” of the group, and that’s a good thing, she said: “That means we don’t have this backlog or baggage of institutional memory holding us down.”

This marked the beginning of the startling second act of Jackson’s musical career, as she became — among a certain set — an elder stateswoman of grungy thrash guitar.

A vital presence with a face as open as her husband’s, Paulina is both a celebrated actor and a political stateswoman who served as as Chile’s first Minister of Culture.