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"He couldn't stay out of our business," Jivani told a CBC reporter.

But their criticism has not been received well by some supporters of the ruling party, with some senior figures asking religious leaders to stay out of politics.

For Luis, the outwardly dull telephony work has provided the anchor he needs to stay out of crime, something he says ex-gang members he knows in the US struggle with.

Foster Wells: They got to stay out late and feel grown up.

I'm going to stay out of speculating on what went down or the precise culpability of each party; I'll just note that you don't have to be likable to be wronged, and harm doesn't always flow evenly or in one direction.