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He was at the town hall, he said, to see if the representative was “talking out of both sides of his mouth” and “to see if he represents us or if he represents the president.”

“I don’t personally view it as talking out of both sides of our mouth,” he said.

Alsup repeatedly accused representatives of the Trump administration of talking out of both sides of their mouths when trying to justify the layoffs.

They simply figured he wasn’t serious, wishfully thinking that he would be talked out of the dumb idea.

But Hegseth also talked out of both sides of his mouth, claiming, on one hand, that the poorly defined allegations against him are "made up" while also admitting to "kernels of truth."